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Rezn8
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Posted - 01/19/2007 :  6:14:37 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  [Reply to Topic]  | [Reply w/ Quote]
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I can really use your opinions here guys and gals on which app you feel has the smoothest delays and verbs. I heard soundforge 6 reverb today for the first time and am blown away by how smooth it sounds compared to my sonar 2.2 verb. Soundforge seems to sound bigger and more detailed than sonar.

Who's using soundforge 6 and sonar 2.2 together, and is it advantageous to process sonar tracks in soundforge for delays and verbs and then just import the results back into sonar for editing and mixing?

Or should I just break down and get Pro Tools M-powered?

This is for tracks like I just posted in the Song Evaluation forum (the flute piece). Native American flute's, drums, effects percussion, and spoken word are what I'm working on right now.

Thanks



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lawapa
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Posted - 01/19/2007 :  6:50:57 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, I just select the effect in Sonar and add it to the track effect bin. There are a few that will not do real time like acoustic mirror. The simple delay is nothing special but the multi_delay allows up to 6 seperate delay times. This is overkill for most tracks but can sim an old analog tape delay line like the Roland chorus/echo box. The SoundForge stuff is not bad if you take the time to set then to taste. You do get a few more options for tweaking them out.

The Sonitus plugs are not in Sonar2.2 but are very nice.

Love to make that music,as well I love to tweak,Make my own sample sets
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GK_Studio
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Posted - 01/19/2007 :  7:22:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Rezn8,

When are you going to break down and get the UAD-1 or Powercore??? It's only a matter of time... stop resisting... (twisting arm - twisting arm....)


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Rezn8
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Posted - 01/19/2007 :  8:03:09 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by GK_Studio

Rezn8,

When are you going to break down and get the UAD-1 or Powercore??? It's only a matter of time... stop resisting... (twisting arm - twisting arm....)





I've been looking at that as a desirable and viable option too GK, trust me. Had it up on the screen today and am waiting for word back from Justin about whether or not I have PCI Express slots on my new DAWBox or just regular PCI slots. I've been looking at the UAD-1 express paks. This one's twisting my brain already. I was even looking at the lexicon mx200 today because of it's plugin abilities but am not convinced the verbs are any better than what I heard from soundforge today.
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garrigus
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Posted - 01/19/2007 :  8:24:58 PM  Show Profile  Visit garrigus's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hey Rez,

Before you purchase anything else, there are plenty of free options available.

First, did you try the FxReverb effect already in Sonar 2?

Then, you could also trying running the SF plugs in real-time by adding them to the track Fx bins in Sonar. They should be listed inside Sonar.

And have you tried the following free plugs:
* LUXONIX LFX-1310 Multi FX Processor VST/AU Plug-In
http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/download.asp?ID=78

* SIR - Super Impulse Reverb VST Effect Plug-In
http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/download.asp?ID=62

* Kjaerhus Audio Classic Reverb Effect Plug-In
http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/download.asp?ID=13

Might as well check out the free stuff first since you have nothing to lose.

Scott


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Rezn8
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Posted - 01/19/2007 :  10:23:04 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Scott. I didn't know you could run soundforge plugs in sonar. Thought you had to do that from within soundforge. I'll give that a try in tomorrow's sessions. I really appreciate the tip. I'm definitely starting to find some great free options. The IR tip looks interesting too.
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GK_Studio
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Posted - 01/20/2007 :  1:19:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Rezn8,

If your looking at the UAD-1, make sure you take listen to the Plate 140.... and the Pultec...

They are the closest thing to magic you will ever hear and are what you will end up using the most of with the UAD-1. A good friend of mine used the Plate 140 on an acoustic guitar track and when he went to sit down with the mastering engineer - they wanted to know what it was.... it really is that good...

GK_Studio
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Rezn8
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Posted - 01/20/2007 :  4:07:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
GK, do you have either of the Roland delay plugs?

Also, are you using it with sonar?

Edited by - Rezn8 on 01/20/2007 5:36:00 PM
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GK_Studio
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Posted - 01/22/2007 :  1:32:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't have the Roland Delay plugs and I do run Sonar.

The UAD gives you a 14 day trial on all it's plugs so I am still saving those Roland Delays for the mix down of my solo albumn... which is still in my head (typical musician).

I can honestly tell you that I have never been disappointed by any of their plug-ins. The fairchild compressors are better than the waves and you can hear the difference.



(still twisting twisting twisting...)

GK_Studio
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Paul G
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Posted - 01/23/2007 :  6:25:22 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Rezn8:

Jonas over at the Sonar forum made up several persets for the FXReverb that sound quite good. The 140 plate was one that he emulated. Do a search for his name and you'll find them. If not let me know.

There is also a group buy over at KvR for the ReverbTools IR's by Jim Roseberry. They are quite good and only $20 plus you'll get a free sample set. Try these with SIR and you'll be impressed.

HTH

Paul

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Rezn8
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Posted - 01/23/2007 :  7:50:27 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Paul, I appreciate that.
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