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Dan Nash
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Posted - 01/18/2007 :  11:18:50 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  [Reply to Topic]  | [Reply w/ Quote]
I have a great drum track but don't like the snare sound and would like to replace snare hits with midi snare sounds. I have sonar 6 producer and motu mk3 2408 sound card through a creation station pc. I would appreciate any advice on how to do this.

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GK_Studio
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Posted - 01/18/2007 :  1:00:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Drumagog or something like that... I think there may be other programs like it, but that would do the trick...

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Davo
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Posted - 01/18/2007 :  5:05:26 PM  Show Profile  Visit Davo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
something like this could also be done manually in the piano roll veiw, i've done similar things many times, quite easy. just line up the cursor on th snare hit on your audio track and place a snare hit in the piano roll veiw at this point, it would only take 10 minutes or so for a 3-4 minute song.

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lawapa
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Posted - 01/18/2007 :  9:00:37 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Replacement using midi by hand will work if the snare is on its own track But you risk punching holes in your grove on a stereo mix. I've not used those replacement apps.

A snare hit on a midi track can be easily isolated. Open piano roll/ find the snare note/ click the keyboard note on the right hand side/ That will select all those snare notes on the entire track. do a cut/ paste to new track and blamo the snare has it's own track.

To do a audio replacement is not that hard. Scroll the audio track and marker each hit. Go back and zero each marker. Then using keyboad shortcuts jump to each marker and insert a midi note that corresponds to the sound you want.

Now scroll the audio track again using the markers, And split the audio to window out the snare hit. Sounds like a ton of work huh? Funny thing is if you take the time to do the keyboard shortcuts ya can breeze through it so fast it's almost automatic. That is if your familiar with the track If it's a import and not your work it takes a tad more time to locate the snare hit

Love to make that music,as well I love to tweak,Make my own sample sets

Edited by - lawapa on 01/18/2007 9:02:14 PM
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Dan Nash
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Posted - 01/20/2007 :  11:46:22 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the replies. I had success by using audio snap to extract the transients and copied this to the clip board. Then I pasted this into a midi track and assigned the snare I wanted to the midi "hits". It took some trial & error, but I was eventually successful. This process is outlined in Scott's power Sonar 5, I just got power Sonar 6 and can't wait to use it. Highly recomended for the new user of Sonar. Up until I read his book I was getting a daily beating from this program.....TTTOOOOOO Complicated for my simple mind to figure out on my own!!
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garrigus
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Posted - 01/20/2007 :  1:27:22 PM  Show Profile  Visit garrigus's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Dan,

Thanks very much! I'm glad to hear you're enjoying my books and I appreciate your support.

By the way, check out pages 247 to 249 in Sonar 6 Power and you'll find an Audio Snap drum replacement tutorial. Audio Snap is very cool.

Scott

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