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thewordsmith
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Posted - 05/28/2013 :  11:05:13 PM  Show Profile  Visit thewordsmith's Homepage  Reply with Quote  [Reply to Topic]  | [Reply w/ Quote]
This question may be a bit silly but I would like to know if there is any way to put a fade out on a midi track or note?


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Posted - 05/29/2013 :  09:35:48 AM  Show Profile  Visit garrigus's Homepage  Reply with Quote
You can add a volume automation envelope to the MIDI track, but it's actually better if you use a volume envelope on the audio track that the MIDI track is driving.

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Posted - 05/29/2013 :  8:55:48 PM  Show Profile  Visit thewordsmith's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I tried it and it works. I will send you a copy of this song when I am done with it. Might take a few weeks. Sulaiman

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You can add a volume automation envelope to the MIDI track, but it's actually better if you use a volume envelope on the audio track that the MIDI track is driving.

Scott


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garrigus
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Posted - 05/30/2013 :  09:25:48 AM  Show Profile  Visit garrigus's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Sulaiman,

Excellent. Glad you got it working.

You might want to post your song on SoundCloud and then link to it over in the Song Evaluation section here in the forum so you can also get feedback from other DigiFreq visitors...
http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/discuss/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=14

Scott

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stuartwbuchanan
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Posted - 06/05/2013 :  5:10:12 PM  Show Profile  Visit stuartwbuchanan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by thewordsmith

This question may be a bit silly but I would like to know if there is any way to put a fade out on a midi track or note?


I thought this was a "good question". I have a similar question. Many songs fade out all tracks (the whole song). This might be done at the Final Master session. Does SONAR X2 Producer allow for fading out all tracks at once?

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Old Goat
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Posted - 06/05/2013 :  5:53:26 PM  Show Profile  Visit Old Goat's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yeah. Put an output volume envelope on the master bus.

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Posted - 06/05/2013 :  6:43:42 PM  Show Profile  Visit stuartwbuchanan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
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Yeah. Put an output volume envelope on the master bus.


Thanks for the answer OG!

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thewordsmith
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Posted - 06/07/2013 :  11:30:12 PM  Show Profile  Visit thewordsmith's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I do not know about X2 but in Sonar 8 you can hold down the Ctrl button as you highlight all track. With tall tracks highlighted when you change the fade time for one track it changes the fade value for all tracks. Try that.

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Originally posted by thewordsmith

This question may be a bit silly but I would like to know if there is any way to put a fade out on a midi track or note?


I thought this was a "good question". I have a similar question. Many songs fade out all tracks (the whole song). This might be done at the Final Master session. Does SONAR X2 Producer allow for fading out all tracks at once?

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garrigus
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Posted - 06/08/2013 :  09:00:15 AM  Show Profile  Visit garrigus's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yep, for proper mixing, all your track outputs should be going to buses. This can be sub-buses (which all then get output to a master bus) or just directly to a master bus. That way you can add final effects and volume changes to the final mix of all tracks using a single bus.

Scott

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Posted - 06/08/2013 :  09:27:29 AM  Show Profile  Visit stuartwbuchanan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Is there a standard time in seconds in the music industry to fade out a song. Is this done during the Mastering of the song? - Stuart

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Posted - 06/08/2013 :  10:49:54 AM  Show Profile  Visit garrigus's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes, I would do it in the mastering stage because the mastering engineer will want to hear the entire song till the end.

I'm not aware of any standard fade time. Just use whatever sounds good for the song. You could start with 10 seconds and go from there.

Scott

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stuartwbuchanan
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Posted - 06/08/2013 :  1:16:21 PM  Show Profile  Visit stuartwbuchanan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks everyone for your answers. - Stuart

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