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Zarplod
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Posted - 03/03/2010 :  5:00:59 PM  Show Profile  Visit Zarplod's Homepage  Reply with Quote  [Reply to Topic]  | [Reply w/ Quote]
I am now using Sonar 8 pro, but I have to do something I have not done before and cannot figure out how to do it. I use a lot of VSTs, primarily Vienna Instruments, and of course you have to use an audio and a midi channel to use them. I also use some older samples triggered by Gigastudio (believe it or not!). Is there a way I can turn the sound output of both the VSTs and the samples into Audio tracks? I don't want to bounce them all into one, I would like to be able to convert the audio of the VST audio/midi tracks into a new audio track and I would like to do the same with the sample midi tracks. Can I do this? THe reason I want to do this is that there are some effects I can only get by editing audio tracks (not midi tracks).

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Mike


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lawapa
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Posted - 03/03/2010 :  10:11:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
By selecting both the audio and midi channel to one instance of your VST and doing a edit/bounce to track. One new audio track will be created and it will contain the rendered audio just as you'd like. You then mute the original track(s) and edit as you like.

Love to make that music,as well I love to tweak,Make my own sample sets
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Posted - 03/03/2010 :  11:05:00 PM  Show Profile  Visit Zarplod's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the tip! Is there a way to do this with midi only tracks? For example, when I use a Sonar midi track to trigger samples through Gigastudio? Is there anyway to capture that as an audio track?

Mike

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By selecting both the audio and midi channel to one instance of your VST and doing a edit/bounce to track. One new audio track will be created and it will contain the rendered audio just as you'd like. You then mute the original track(s) and edit as you like.

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TWM
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Posted - 03/04/2010 :  08:37:04 AM  Show Profile  Visit TWM's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I haven't used it for a long time, but, as I recall, in Gigastudio 2.0 you hit the "record" button in the top right corner of the GS gui then hit "play" in Sonar. When it's done playing in Sonar you hit stop in GS. This will give you a wave file that you import back into Sonar. Be sure to note where your wave file is saved so you can find it. Good luck.
TW
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garrigus
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Posted - 03/04/2010 :  09:56:54 AM  Show Profile  Visit garrigus's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yep, I don't know for GigaStudio, but for external synths you would have to route the audio output from the synth to the input of your audio interface and record the synth in realtime to an audio track.

Scott

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Posted - 03/04/2010 :  12:43:16 PM  Show Profile  Visit Zarplod's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Is there a better option than Gigastudio to do this with? What program could I use now that would play giga samples that would allow me to record the audio in Sonar? Is there such a program?

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Yep, I don't know for GigaStudio, but for external synths you would have to route the audio output from the synth to the input of your audio interface and record the synth in realtime to an audio track.

Scott


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lawapa
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Posted - 03/04/2010 :  8:29:50 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You would need a VST sample player that supports giga sets and then a bounce to track. You could mute all tracks but giga and patch stereo out to the sound card wave in with a ready Sonar track to record the instrument.

I'd use the import file set up in giga and do that cause it's the easiest

Love to make that music,as well I love to tweak,Make my own sample sets
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garrigus
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Posted - 03/05/2010 :  09:18:49 AM  Show Profile  Visit garrigus's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Native Instruments KONTAKT is currently the best software sampler on the market: http://digifreq.com/?Kontakt

It does load Gigasampler files, but I've never tried that feature, so I don't know how well the translation of the files is done.

Scott

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TWM
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Posted - 03/05/2010 :  10:10:09 AM  Show Profile  Visit TWM's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Sonar used to come with V-Sampler from MAZ Sound. It worked fine on smaller giga files. Might be better now . It's a little expensive 149 Euro. $218 US? but it does play a lot of different types of samples. G-Player is exclusively giga for $149. I've only used the demo but it works great even on large files. Haven't found any freeware.

TW
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