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alkie
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Posted - 04/21/2008 :  10:28:22 PM  Show Profile  Visit alkie's Homepage  Reply with Quote  [Reply to Topic]  | [Reply w/ Quote]
hi guy`s i`m in the market for a new keyboard with at least 61 keys. i have a PCR-300 right now but need something with more keys in the learning stages so it doesn`t have to be something real expensive. i might get the PCR-800 but just want some input and suggestions. Also what`s the differance between a keyboard midi controller a regular keyboard and a digital piano keyboard thanks in advance for any help guy`s alan k.(alkie).



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garrigus
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Posted - 04/23/2008 :  11:01:41 AM  Show Profile  Visit garrigus's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Alan,

I've got the PCR-800 as one of my controllers and I like it a lot. It works really well.

A regular synth keyboard comes with a built-in synth and sounds. A digital piano comes with built-in piano sounds (and many of them also have weighed keys so they feel like you're playing a piano). A MIDI controller keyboard only provides the keyboard and controls (knobs, slider, etc.) - it doesn't provide any built-in sounds.

Scott

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alkie
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Posted - 04/23/2008 :  10:51:22 PM  Show Profile  Visit alkie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
thanks scott i think i`ll get the PCR-800, i have enough virtual instruments and sounds and synths that it will be a long time before i need more sounds. oh and i`m gonna keep bugging you to do a book on the PCR series. cheers alan k.

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Posted - 04/27/2008 :  12:02:42 PM  Show Profile  Visit garrigus's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The PCR-800 comes with some nice editing software so you don't have to fool around with the small LCD screen on the keyboard. So it's really easy to make control assignments.

Scott

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alkie
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Posted - 04/27/2008 :  2:15:01 PM  Show Profile  Visit alkie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
hi, after some more investigating i am really interested in the ROLAND RD-300SX it sounds very nice. I`m a bit confused though because normally products are cheaper in the states but SHERWOOD music has it on for $995.00 and all the websites in the states have it listed between $1295.00 & $1395.00 any clue why that is. Also i bought Acoustica`s BEATCRAFT very nice program for just $35.00.

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alkie
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Posted - 05/02/2008 :  9:15:15 PM  Show Profile  Visit alkie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
well i picked up the RD-300sx and it sounds great.

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Spanky
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Posted - 05/03/2008 :  8:01:27 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
The PCR-800 comes with some nice editing software so you don't have to fool around with the small LCD screen on the keyboard. So it's really easy to make control assignments.

Scott



Scott,
I also have the PCR-800. I started to figure out the "PCR Editor" (is that the editing software you're referring too?) I found that using the features withing Sonar 6's "Options" were more intuitive.(WIA feature... for example)
That said, I find that I'm not getting all the control I would like to have with the PCR- 800.
Can you give an example of what types of control assignments you work with and how you do it?
Thanks,
S~
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alkie
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Posted - 05/04/2008 :  01:01:57 AM  Show Profile  Visit alkie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
watch this youtube tutorial it shows how to assign notes to your buttons and pads on the PCR Editor. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8zlBPuk0fY&feature=related

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Posted - 05/11/2008 :  2:37:41 PM  Show Profile  Visit garrigus's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Spanky,

What problems are you having with the PCR-800?

Scott

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Spanky
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Posted - 05/11/2008 :  11:37:39 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Scott,
No major problems really. It's just that I don't think I'm using it to it's full potential. I use basically volume controls and panning controls. The keyboard has about 50 buttons and rotary knobs, slider's and pads etc. I was just wondering what you use all the stuff to control?
One thing I can't seem to get working is controlling MIDI patterns in SD2 using the keys. I watched a YouTube video of how Robin Kelly was switching drum patterns "on the fly" by hitting specific keys from his controller (an Edirol controller I believe) while his song was playing.
Thanks for your help.
S~
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Posted - 05/12/2008 :  10:40:47 AM  Show Profile  Visit garrigus's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Spanky,

You can use the controls for all sorts of things... controlling playback/recording, controlling track parameters (like volume/pan, etc.), you can use the small pads (A1-A9,B1-B9) as drum pads to tap out your own beats, etc. One thing in particular I like to do is use the knobs and sliders to control soft synth parameters when tweaking a new patch. That way I don't even have to look at the screen. I can just sit at the keyboard and play while tweaking parameters right there.

As for the SD2, each of those MIDI Pattern Pads (A through H) has a corresponding MIDI note number to trigger it. If you open SD2 and press F1 on your computer keyboard, that will bring up the SD2 help and it has a table showing what notes trigger each Pad. Then you just have to send that MIDI note message from your keyboard to SD2 in order to trigger a Pad for playback on the fly.

Scott

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* Cakewalk SONAR Video Tutorials: https://www.youtube.com/user/ScottGarrigus?sub_confirmation=1
* Author of the Cakewalk Sonar and Sony Sound Forge Power book series: http://garrigus.com/?PowerBooks
* Publisher of the DigiFreq music recording newsletter: http://www.digifreq.com/
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