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larryalex
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Posted - 08/04/2006 :  08:50:58 AM  Show Profile  Visit larryalex's Homepage  Reply with Quote  [Reply to Topic]  | [Reply w/ Quote]

All,

Is it possible to have two different sound cards installed on the same 'puter system and "switch" between the two when I need to do so? I would like to run a simple Soundblaster Live card for system sounds and perhaps an M-Audio 2496 for "serious" sounds.

Does the M-Audio 2496 have any onboard sounds itself or is it strictly an audio interface?

Thanks,

Larry Alexander



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Jim Sturm
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Posted - 08/04/2006 :  09:06:20 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Absolutely. It may (but not necessarily on modern systems) require some tweaking if there are IRQ conflicts, but it's entirely possible. You can select the default card for the system and most applications through Start/Control Panel/Sounds and Audio Devices. If you're using a program like Sonar, you have complete control over the cards.

The problem comes in if you try to use them simultaneously. That's really not an issue either, if you sync the cards via WordClock or SP/DIF.

As far as the 2496 is concerned, it's 'just' an audio interface.

-Jim




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larryalex
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Posted - 08/04/2006 :  09:24:10 AM  Show Profile  Visit larryalex's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks, Mr. Jim. I appreciate all of the information.

Regards,

Larry Alexander
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firefox
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Posted - 08/04/2006 :  11:39:18 AM  Show Profile  Visit firefox's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The m-audio 24/96 is just an audio card.
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larryalex
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Posted - 08/04/2006 :  1:33:48 PM  Show Profile  Visit larryalex's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by firefox

The m-audio 24/96 is just an audio card.



With no onboard sounds of its own. Right?

Larry A.
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lawapa
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Posted - 08/04/2006 :  1:51:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Right

But it sounds very good and the softies you pay for sound better 'n' Blaster synths by a long shot?

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NWSmith
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Posted - 08/04/2006 :  3:14:41 PM  Show Profile  Visit NWSmith's Homepage  Reply with Quote
One thing to keep an eye out on is setting the drivers. With 2 Soundcards, I believe you cannot use ASIO or WMD drivers. You have to set each card to MME - which is a slightly lesser driver. (At least that's how it was a couple years back when I did it.)

I tinkered around with 2 soundcards on my set up for a while - but opted for one card.

Good Luck!

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larryalex
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Posted - 08/04/2006 :  4:18:27 PM  Show Profile  Visit larryalex's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the info. I'll keep that in mind.

Larry A.
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ennbr
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Posted - 08/05/2006 :  07:56:16 AM  Show Profile  Visit ennbr's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
I believe you cannot use ASIO or WMD drivers.


This is true ASIO only supports one audio device at a time. As for WDM it does support multiple sound cards.

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larryalex
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Posted - 08/05/2006 :  09:44:19 AM  Show Profile  Visit larryalex's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ennbr

quote:
I believe you cannot use ASIO or WMD drivers.


This is true ASIO only supports one audio device at a time. As for WDM it does support multiple sound cards.



That's good to know. I have always used WDM drivers with Sonar before.

Thanks, Man.

Larry Alexander
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Zuushi
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Posted - 10/06/2006 :  06:53:03 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
But why don't you want one good card that will play your system sounds and the music you make alltogether?
By the way, you should dissable system sounds if you are working seriously on recording and editing in your studio...

Cheers!

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otto
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Posted - 10/06/2006 :  07:55:11 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't think having two soundcards in your system is a problem for ASIO. You can have multiple cards on your system and still use ASIO, but you just can't SELECT the two cards within the one app. At least that's my understanding.

Edited by - otto on 10/06/2006 07:57:00 AM
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larryalex
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Posted - 10/06/2006 :  08:02:01 AM  Show Profile  Visit larryalex's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks, y'all, for the information.

Larry
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Beagle
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Posted - 10/06/2006 :  12:21:36 PM  Show Profile  Visit Beagle's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by otto

I don't think having two soundcards in your system is a problem for ASIO. You can have multiple cards on your system and still use ASIO, but you just can't SELECT the two cards within the one app. At least that's my understanding.


Not to pick on you specifically otto, you just happen to be the last one in the thread that said something I want to address!

ASIO MODE will not allow you to operate two sound cards at the same time UNLESS you have TWO M-AUDIO SOUND CARDS that are compatible with the m-audio sound applet. For example, I can run a Delta 44 and a Delta 1010LT in the same computer with Sonar using ASIO because the m-audio applet takes care of the driver compatibility issues.

ASIO itself is what does not allow sharing of hardware resources and thus the reason you cannot run two cards at the same time with ASIO unless they are M-audio ASIO compatible cards.

You should be able to use two sound cards in WDM mode in your system IF the drivers of both cards are compatible enough. Most of the time this will be the case, but occassionally you might find a combination which won't work together in WDM MODE.

hope that helps!

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otto
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I wonder if ASIO is being emulated through the WDM driver and that allows things to not be limited. I think Echo did this with their drivers. A number of different companies deal with these kinds of issues in their driver design. RME I believe also has some kind of solution to the ASIO limitation, but I could be wrong.
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Beagle
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Posted - 10/06/2006 :  10:54:34 PM  Show Profile  Visit Beagle's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by otto

I wonder if ASIO is being emulated through the WDM driver and that allows things to not be limited. I think Echo did this with their drivers. A number of different companies deal with these kinds of issues in their driver design. RME I believe also has some kind of solution to the ASIO limitation, but I could be wrong.


According to m-audio it's not supposed to be. You might be right about RME, I've never used their equipment, but if m-audio can do it, I'm sure RME can.

you bring up a good point, tho, the ASIO4ALL driver mode that you can download for free actually IS a WDM "wrapper" which fools the host into thinking that the host is running in ASIO mode, when it's in actuality a WDM fake out. But I don't think you can run two sound cards using ASIO4ALL, tho.

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