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Date:
3/25/2006 | Time: 7:14:01 AM | Author:
Bill
Message: Mixer for recording
I got a Mackie DFX-12 to use for connecting to the ESI Waveterminal 192M 4 in 8 out in my PC. I wanted a mixer so I could leave everything connected to the pc and have some decent pre's and also to have jam sessions with a couple of friends. I'm using the mixers channel inserts for 4 direct outs to the inputs of the 192M and I have the 192M's 8 outs coming back to 4 of the mixers stereo channels. This seems to work fine but I think I might do better with a mixer with more flexible routing options. Do I need a mixer with 4 busses? What would you guys recommend in the $350.00 price range? Ideally I'd like to be able to send any channel to any of the 4 inputs of the 192M. Effects aren't that important but I thought it would be nice to have for jam sessions. (The effects on the mackie DFX-12 are not very good IMO)I've never used a mixer for recording before so I'm in need of some advice here. Also I can return the Mackie.
Thanks,
Bill
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Date:
3/26/2006 | Time: 6:18:26 AM | Author:
Bill
Message: Mixer for recording
Okay I guess nobody uses a mixer with their recording setup. So here's my take on it. After trying the DFX-12, as much as I wanted to like it, it was just too noisy which is something I just didn't expect from a Mackie. I had to crank the trim up way past unity just to ge a usable signal out of the board. After talking to someone that was knowledgeable about mixers at my Local Centry Music store I found out that the mic pre's in the DFX-12 were second rate and that it was only produced to compete with Behringer. Luckily they were having a moving sale and I picked up a Mackie 1402 VLZ PRO for $311.00. I have to say the 1402's sound is much better with a lot more headroom and is extremely quiet with a lot more routing possibilities. After a lot of research online I've found that you just can't trust most of the reviews that you read about gear. That's one reason I've always valued this forum and the advice I've recieved from it.
I still could use some advice on the best way to use it for recording if anyone uses a mixer in their setup.
Thanks again,
Bill
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Date:
3/26/2006 | Time: 6:39:52 AM | Author:
MJ
Message: Mixer for recording
Sorry Bill,
I use a mixer all the time in my setup and I meant to reply to your first post but I simply don't have the time I used to.
Most if not all I would have suggested can be read in these previous posts I obtained by Googling THIS SITE with MJ + 'Mackie 1604';
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2006-05,GGLG:en&q=site:www%2Edigifreq%2Ecom+site%3Awww%2Edigifreq%2Ecom+MJ+%2B+%22Mackie+1604%22
If none of those links describe how I set up my Mackie for recording try opening up the search by using MJ + Mackie but you will get more extraneous posts such as 'Mackie Tracktion' posts etc.
Sorry again;
MJ
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Date:
3/26/2006 | Time: 7:22:22 AM | Author:
firefox
Message: Mixer for recording
I use (or use to) use a mackie 1604 VLZ pro 16x4 mixer. The preamps are killer for a stock board. I keep it around for micing drums.
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Date:
3/26/2006 | Time: 9:03:56 AM | Author:
GGB
Message: Mixer for recording
Set it up to play with your band. I at one time had one set up with a bus feeding each input of the sound card. So my mains where for when I just wanted to play with the group, but when I wanted to record I would just assign the channel to the buss (a click of one button and a twist of the pan knob).
GGB
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Date:
3/26/2006 | Time: 9:29:12 AM | Author:
firefox
Message: Mixer for recording
Yeah, without repatching anything. it's great isn't it
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Date:
3/26/2006 | Time: 3:27:15 PM | Author:
Bill
Message: Mixer for recording
Yea, thanks guys.
MJ, I did check out some of your old posts and they were helpful. I think I'm going to use the inserts as direct outs on two channels for mics and alt 3/4 for guitar and bass. I'll rarely record more than 2 tracks at a time so it should be good. I think I made a good choice in returning the DFX-12 and getting the 1402-VLZPro and I learned a lot about mixers and routing in the process. Now I'm thinking of some sort of effect processer to play around with.
Man If I'm not careful I'll turn into a gear junkie.
Bill
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Date:
3/26/2006 | Time: 4:01:05 PM | Author:
GGB
Message: Mixer for recording
For a starter effects unit, the Digitech Studio Quad V2 is a great unit that will allow you to have a great deal of flexibility when using it with your mixer...
Of course all tracks should be recorded dry...
GGB
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