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twinpeaksnikki
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Posted - 06/21/2012 :  12:24:57 AM  Show Profile  Visit twinpeaksnikki's Homepage  Reply with Quote  [Reply to Topic]  | [Reply w/ Quote]
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What is the best plugin to use to "de-ess" a female vocal and what settings. I found a preset in vocal strip that is described as a "male" de-esser. As I am an alto, that might work, any other ideas?

I finally got the opportunity (summer break) to work on producing new tracks and this Sonar XI continues to amaze me. My piano studies have really paid off. Although I dreamed of being able to comp myself solo instead of guitar but I realize I will never get there and I am better off sticking with guitar when I perform live. But in my studio, with my CP-33, basically just sticking with the voices I have on the keyboard, I am coming up with some amazing stuff. I have a great voice, a pretty good mike, (a $3oo AKG) and a decent vocal processor. The hardest part is "producing" and "mastering" my own recorded voice as I lose objectivity when it comes to what my recorded voice sounds like.


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Posted - 06/21/2012 :  05:02:39 AM  Show Profile  Visit dirtysteve's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I use Voxengo's Voxformer for vocal channel strip style processing and love it. The features are deep and the de-essing is fantastic IMO. Even includes a noise gate.

http://www.voxengo.com/product/voxformer/

Voxengo stuff is incredibly transparent for a plug and doesn't flatten my channel tracks or mixes. Also love the Elephant plug for mastering. Compared the Voxengo plugs with Ozone and clearly found the Voxengo stuff to be more transparent and dimensional.


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Posted - 06/21/2012 :  10:42:54 AM  Show Profile  Visit garrigus's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yep, Voxengo makes some nice plug-ins.

You can also try using the Sonitus Multiband Compressor that comes with SONAR. Check out tip #10 on my SONAR Power! tips page...
http://www.garrigus.com/powerbooks/SONARPowerTips.asp

Or you can also try reducing the sibilance manually (if there aren't too many instances of it) using a volume envelope. Sometimes just reducing the volume slightly on the 's' parts of the words will do the trick. It depends on how much sibilance is in the material.

Scott

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Thanks!
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Posted - 06/21/2012 :  5:49:57 PM  Show Profile  Visit twinpeaksnikki's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Double thanks! I used both suggestions, manual and multiband, (this song lyric has a lot of S's in it!) I learned a lot too that can be applied to other issues. The only thing you might mention in your tutorial is that once you get the settings that work, save it as a pre-set.

I have often considered going to a commercial recording studio to record the vocals. I now know that I can get a better result right here in the friendly confines of my home!
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No problem. DS and I are glad to help! Yeah, every song is different, so it can sometimes take a variety of techniques to solve a problem.

Scott

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Nikki, if your mic is a side address mic you can strap a pencil to the grill using a rubber band. You want the pencil to be lined up down the center of the mic and that will dramatically reduce sibilance.

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