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Mike.EH
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Posted - 05/05/2012 :  6:58:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  [Reply to Topic]  | [Reply w/ Quote]
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Hi, since I've upgraded (???) from a SBLive to Echo Mia Midi soundcard, I now find that I cannot record audio in Soundforge Pro 10 from the internet. My friends post their music on Soundcloud and I used to be able to record it on Soundforge as it's playing, but not any more. I also like to record the audio from certain Youtube videos. But can't get the record meters to move at all. I've set the Echo Mia sample rate to 44,100 to match Soundforge, but still nothing. Works perfectly recording in Sonar via a mixer thru analogue ins.
Can anyone please help with this.
Thanks,
Mike


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Posted - 05/06/2012 :  09:08:19 AM  Show Profile  Visit garrigus's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Mike,

For a soundcard like the Echo, you'll need to route the outputs back to the inputs in order to record any audio that's played by your PC.

Scott

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Mike.EH
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Posted - 05/06/2012 :  5:54:55 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks, Scott, but do you mean physically or the software?
Mike
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Posted - 05/07/2012 :  09:46:47 AM  Show Profile  Visit garrigus's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Mike,

Yeah, I meant physically unless the Echo has a "What you Hear" feature like the SB Live. I don't know if it does though.

Scott

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Mike.EH
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Posted - 05/21/2012 :  6:23:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi, getting slightly depressed......
Is it ok to discuss in this forum Soundforge and my sound card? Sorry if it's in wrong forum.
Anyway, advice from Echo is that the Mia Midi has no "what you hear" function and the outputs must be connected to the inputs to record from the PC.
I'll copy below the emails sent to and from Echo and perhaps you can understand my problem, because Echo doesn't seem to!!!!


"On 5/18/2012 4:01 PM, michael hopkins wrote:
Hi, having a bit of trouble with the Mia Midi.
Just been recording into Soundforge Pro10 and I'm finding that the sliders and mute buttons in the Mia Console view don't work. To adjust the input volume I have to open the Windows volume controls from the system tray, where I can adjust the input with the Wave slider, but the Mia console meters still move even if I've turned the volumes off!!!. To adjust the Virtual Out volume it's back to the Windows control where it has a Virtual Out 1-2 slider. Moving the Analogue input and Virtual output sliders in the Mia Console view does nothing.
Any Ideas, please?
Mike

On 5/21/2012 21:51, marcel@echoaudio.com wrote:
Hi Mike - Our MiaMidi inputs and outputs are line levels. You need a mic-preamp or small mixer....

On 5/21/2012 4:01 PM, michael hopkins wrote:
Hi, not sure if I've made the problem clear.
Firstly, in the Mia Midi Console view, why don't the mute buttons and sliders have any affect? I press the mute buttons, and nothing is muted. I move the sliders and the volume doesn't change. The only way to adjust the volume is by the Windows volume control in the system tray.
Secondly, I am using a mixer as my interface with my computer. But why would I need a mic preamp when I'm not using a mic?

I am trying to record the audio from a YouTube video from the YouTube site in real time. To record in Soundforge, as per your advice, I've connected the Mia Midi card outputs to a line level stereo channel in my mixer then straight into Soundforge on my PC. But the Mia Midi volume sliders don't have any affect at all. I have to use the Windows volume control in the system tray. How do I get the Mia Midi sliders to work?
Mike"

Can't seem to get any advice from Echo....can anyone else suggest anything, please?
Thanks,
Mike
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Posted - 05/22/2012 :  09:01:02 AM  Show Profile  Visit garrigus's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Mike,

I'm sorry... I have no idea why the Mia software isn't working. Echo would have to help with that.

In the meantime, you'll have to use the Windows Mixer. It sounds like you've got things working by connecting the outputs to the inputs, enabling you to record the YouTube audio.

Scott

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Mike.EH
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Posted - 05/22/2012 :  10:30:54 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, I'm connecting the outputs to the inputs but I can't now monitor the audio being recorded, I can only monitor from my external mixer before it goes into the PC. I'm not getting much luck with Echo, and it's making me want to replace the Echo with my old trusty SBLive!!!!! At least that does what I want it to do.
Mike
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Posted - 05/22/2012 :  12:25:59 PM  Show Profile  Visit garrigus's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Mike,

Hmm... well, instead of doing it the manual way, you could try the following software... http://applian.com/freecorder5/

Keep in mind that I've never used this software, so I have no idea if it works. It's just something I found with an internet search.

Otherwise, it looks like you're stuck with doing it manually and monitoring from the mixer. Although, you could split the Mia output with special cables so that you could both record and monitor at the same time.

Scott

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