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Spanky
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Posted - 08/30/2011 :  09:13:40 AM  Show Profile  Visit Spanky's Homepage  Reply with Quote  [Reply to Topic]  | [Reply w/ Quote]
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I've just acquired a Yamaha MG10/2 mixing console... given to me by my nephew. What's the advantage of using it with my other gear? I'm not sure what to do with it.

My ancient but current set up:
Sonar PE v.6
M-Audio Omni i/o Integrated Desktop Audio Station
M-Audio USB MIDIsport 4X4
M-Audio Delta 66 soundcard
Edirol PCR-800 MIDI Keyboad controller
H/P desktop

Asus Laptop
M-Audio Firewire 410

What can I do with this little outboard mixer that I can't do with the Omni i/o??

Thx,
S~



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Jim Sturm
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Posted - 08/30/2011 :  09:35:55 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just going to give a quick answer because you should get creative with it and find out for yourself.

In a nutshell - lots more patching options - more inputs, preamps, zero latency monitoring, external routing and hardware interfacing, sub-mix (stem) options, the list goes on and on...

Remember. Your software/firmware emulates what this hardware does with virtually NO latency and ZERO system load. It doesn't require a mouse and you can touch it!

JMO and remember, I come from a hardware background. I live in a hybrid world. I don't believe one mouse and a keyboard will ever fully take the place of two hands on real knobs and sliders.

-Jim






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garrigus
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Posted - 08/30/2011 :  12:22:32 PM  Show Profile  Visit garrigus's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Jim has some good advice there, but I'll go in the other direction.

It really depends on what you need and what you want to do. I personally do pretty much everything in-the-box these days. I don't use a hardware mixer. However, I also have the V-Studio 700 in my studio, which sort of makes up for the non-outboard situation. The 700 provides zero-latency monitoring, it provides many inputs/outputs (so I can patch in outboard gear if I'd like), and most beautiful of all is the control surface, which provides a nice tactile feel during mixing. So I kinda have the best of both worlds.

If you like to use a lot of outboard gear, then a mixer can definitely make things easier. Plus (as Jim said), you could try recording through the mixer's preamps to get a different sound, and sometimes engineers will run their final digital mix through a hardware mixer to give it a more analog sound for the final master.

Scott

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dirtysteve
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Posted - 08/31/2011 :  4:46:39 PM  Show Profile  Visit dirtysteve's Homepage  Reply with Quote
You'll get much nicer amplification for your mics that will amp them closer to manufacturer's specs. The Yami will give a thicker, more substantial capture being an analog board with decent EQ options and built-in compression. Send the signal out from the board to the Line inputs on your interface. I'd suggest using the balanced 1/4 in. outputs from the mixer. Your sound will immediately improve over what you're used to from the M-Audio pre's (which is rather thin and sterile IMO). Yamaha's years of experience is built into those little boards.

It's also handy, if your Live room is a small spare bedroom, to use the onboard effects to add just a tiny splash of reverb to emulate the early/ambient room reflections of a nicer facility/room if you want.

While using the board as a summing mixer is tempting, you'll find in real-life that it's better just to stay in the box and use Sonar's Bounce feature; then master with whatever plugs you're using for that.

That's a neat little gift you've just inherited.

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Spanky
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Posted - 11/17/2011 :  3:00:58 PM  Show Profile  Visit Spanky's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Wow! I haven't been here for awhile. Thank you all for that info.

I've been involved in a "voice-over" project for a programmer. He's written a program for stock trader's. Simple stuff to do and he's really pleased with the results. May lead to some more "clients". I just took it on for fun but now that I've been "semi-retired" thanks to this economy snafu, I may have found a source of income.

S~



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garrigus
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Posted - 11/18/2011 :  09:54:10 AM  Show Profile  Visit garrigus's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hey Spanky,

Congrats on the voice-over gig!

Scott

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