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arlo57
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Posted - 08/25/2011 :  3:47:01 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  [Reply to Topic]  | [Reply w/ Quote]
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i have this problem. at the end of a track i have a long tail. i have cropped it then bounced it to another track and the tail comes with it.is there a way you can crop the end of a clip and make it permanent?


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garrigus
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Posted - 08/26/2011 :  09:52:15 AM  Show Profile  Visit garrigus's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Tom,

Before you bounce... select the clip and use the Apply Trimming feature to make your cropping permanent.

Scott

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arlo57
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Posted - 08/26/2011 :  2:59:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
did that and it just don`t work.
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Old Goat
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Posted - 08/26/2011 :  5:53:52 PM  Show Profile  Visit Old Goat's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Isn't there a box in the global or audio settings, "play tails after stop"?

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arlo57
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Posted - 08/26/2011 :  6:49:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the box in audio settings" play effect tails after stopping " is disabled.i have tried everything and can`t seem to get rid of the ghost. your book i have, sonar 8 power, is a very good book!! and very well used.(lol)well i hope you can think of something.i`m outta ideas.
thanks for your help,
tom
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lawapa
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Posted - 08/27/2011 :  01:01:58 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tried and true. Split clip where you wish it to end and then delete the tail. save changes to project and render.

Love to make that music,as well I love to tweak,Make my own sample sets
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garrigus
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Posted - 08/27/2011 :  09:18:55 AM  Show Profile  Visit garrigus's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Tom,

Hmm... not sure why Apply Trimming isn't working. But yeah, give Larry's suggestion a try and see if that works.

Thanks very much for reading my book!

Scott

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lawapa
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Posted - 08/27/2011 :  9:35:57 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
During heavy editing when I've made a few to many edits I've caught Sonar flubbing some. I don't know if this was the case here. A clip envelope might have silenced the offending tail.

You might note that sonar will always default to non-destructive editing. This might mean that the clip will always retain that tail. A named defined clip, short and sweet might have to be destructively edited. No reason to do this as a simple adjustment to the clip window would silence the offending tail with a minor envelope to ease the end off.

Love to make that music,as well I love to tweak,Make my own sample sets

Edited by - lawapa on 08/27/2011 9:45:14 PM
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arlo57
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Posted - 08/28/2011 :  10:43:10 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
well guy`s thanks for the suggestions,but nothing seems to be working!!maybe i`m doing something wrong. it can`t be this hard to do!!
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lawapa
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Posted - 08/28/2011 :  8:40:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You might have a duplicate clip hidden. If so an edit to the clip that shows won't affect the hidden clip.

Love to make that music,as well I love to tweak,Make my own sample sets
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garrigus
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Posted - 08/29/2011 :  09:05:59 AM  Show Profile  Visit garrigus's Homepage  Reply with Quote
What if instead of bouncing to a new track, you just select the cropped clip and do a Bounce To Clip. Have you tried that?

Otherwise, I really don't know what's going on there...

Scott

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arlo57
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Posted - 08/31/2011 :  6:06:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
should of went with pro tools
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garrigus
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Posted - 09/01/2011 :  09:23:57 AM  Show Profile  Visit garrigus's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Tom,

Did you try my previous suggestion of bouncing to clip?

Also, sometimes a project can become corrupt and then exhibit strange problems. You could try copying and pasting the tracks into a new project file to see if that helps.

Scott

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dirtysteve
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Posted - 09/09/2011 :  4:12:36 PM  Show Profile  Visit dirtysteve's Homepage  Reply with Quote
What's "pro tools"?

Always fly high
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Old Goat
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Posted - 09/09/2011 :  5:47:44 PM  Show Profile  Visit Old Goat's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dirtysteve

What's "pro tools"?



Got three boxes of them at work.

...and I've got a pile of broken 'Harbor Freight' one's too. ;)

Good one, Ed!

-Jim

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Edited by - Jim Sturm on 09/10/2011 09:43:23 AM
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dirtysteve
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Posted - 09/11/2011 :  10:58:22 AM  Show Profile  Visit dirtysteve's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Harbor Freight? Whew, stinky. Wouldn't use those HF tools on any work that's potentially hazardous to your health Ed, LOL.

On topic though, aside from what was mentioned earlier about the original clip hiding underneath (which does happen from time to time), I've found that once in a while a clip can just simply become corrupt. And I'm not so sure it's the fault of Sonar as much as Windows. Windows has a penchant for enumerating things on it's own.

In a case like this I usually scrap the file altogether and start over with a new file and import new clips for looping. It may be a pain in the arse, but that's computing.

I've seen far worse happen in pro tools, and far greater disasters in a large studio on a stupid alesis adat pos crap dang thingy. Sorry, had to go there. I hate those things. Nothing like losing an entire days tracking to a pos alesis adat box, then having to wait 24-48 for a new one from your vendor. Some of you may have had similar experiences. IMHO, thank god for the humble home studio and guerilla recording.

Always fly high
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