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otto
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 Posted - 07/31/2009 : 2:26:48 PM
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| I've still got my 486 DX66 in good working order. I keep it around for the old tape backup drive, the floppy driver, etc. It's great to be able to run old programs on it. Win95. It couldn't handle anything beyond that. I've got 2 Pentium boxes tethered together with a KVM box, and they are both running Win98. I think I'd cry if I got rid of any of these. I put so much time and money into them. |
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garrigus
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firefox
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Posted - 08/06/2009 : 1:16:01 PM
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| Scott where is your studio? in a basement? |
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Jim Sturm
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Posted - 08/07/2009 : 09:39:11 AM
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It's been a couple weeks now, Scott - what do you think? Not an in depth rewiew or anything, but how would you subjectively compare the new i7 to the old P4D dual?
-Jim
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garrigus
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Posted - 08/07/2009 : 11:21:06 AM
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Hey Firefox,
No, I've actually got three different spaces at the moment. The one you see in the video is actually my home office, which is just a converted bedroom. But I keep my portable gear in that room... laptop, Edirol keyboard, FA-66 interface, etc. so that I can do some quick and easy composing without having to fire up the whole studio.
The main space is up on the third floor with my Creation Station machines, desk, 88-key keyboard, rack, etc. Both spaces are not huge though because I do most of my work myself.
I also have space in the basement, but it's not finished. I plan to convert half of the basement (which is pretty large) into a soundproof area (part control room and part recording space). It'll still be a while before that project is done though because I have too much work to do these days.
In the meantime, if a project requires a fully treated space I just book some studio time and charge it to the client. But I don't do a lot of that type of work right now. Most of the stuff I need to do I can do inside the box with virtual instruments, etc. And vocals are easy to record in the third floor space because it's very quiet up there. You'll see some of that space in one of the upcoming videos.
Scott
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* Author of the Cakewalk Sonar and Sony Sound Forge Power book series: http://garrigus.com/?PowerBooks
* Author of the Cakewalk Sonar ProAudioTutor video tutorial series: http://garrigus.com/?ProAudioTutor
* Publisher of the DigiFreq free music technology newsletter: http://digifreq.com/?DigiFreq
* Publisher of the NewTechReview free consumer technology newsletter: http://newtechreview.com/?NewTechReview |
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garrigus
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Posted - 08/07/2009 : 11:29:42 AM
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Hey Jim,
I would say "holy crap this thing is awesome!" 
Seriously though, the power that we have with these machines today is incredible. Having 4 cores is definitely better than 2 in that everything runs so quickly. And being able to add a ton of plug-ins to a project while barely denting the CPU load is very nice. I haven't done any real testing yet though... as in trying to add so many effects or synths that it would bring the box to a crawl. I'll definitely be trying that just to see how far I can go. Although, Sweetwater did a bunch of tests like that and they have some whitepapers up on their site.
There are some things about the machine that I will probably change though. First is that it only includes 2 drives. Now with all the power, I don't see this being a major problem for most people. But for those like myself that want to scrap every last drop of performance... I'd like to have a separate drive for streaming samples. So eventually, I'll add another drive. Also, I'm thinking I might turn this into a dedicated 64-bit machine. I got Vista 32 with this one (although Sweetwater does ship it with the 64-bit OS if you ask for it). But I've already got plenty of 32-bit power in my older Creation Station so I might take the plunge with the new machine. I'm still thinking about it, but I'd really like to be able to utilize the entire 6GB of RAM that comes with it.
Scott
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* Author of the Cakewalk Sonar and Sony Sound Forge Power book series: http://garrigus.com/?PowerBooks
* Author of the Cakewalk Sonar ProAudioTutor video tutorial series: http://garrigus.com/?ProAudioTutor
* Publisher of the DigiFreq free music technology newsletter: http://digifreq.com/?DigiFreq
* Publisher of the NewTechReview free consumer technology newsletter: http://newtechreview.com/?NewTechReview |
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Jim Sturm
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Posted - 08/07/2009 : 2:08:53 PM
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Thanks Scott. That's just the kind of info I was looking for. :)
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firefox
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Posted - 08/07/2009 : 5:04:49 PM
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| Cool Scott, yeah, that's why i bought an m-box mini for my laptop so I can do the same thing without ramping up my main rig.. |
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garrigus
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Jim Sturm
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Posted - 08/08/2009 : 8:03:59 PM
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Originally posted by garrigus
Hey Jim... so are you going to move up the schedule now for building your new PC?
Scott
I'm going through that temptation phase where I have to keep telling myself 'You just WANT it, you don't really NEED it..'
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lawapa
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Posted - 08/08/2009 : 10:02:57 PM
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You just WANT it
That's how it starts. We all go through that. I've gotten better at resisting that urge.
I can't even imagine the power of an dual quad. But it would be fun trying to choke one down to a crawl. |
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GitPick
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Posted - 08/11/2009 : 12:01:09 AM
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Originally posted by garrigus
Hey Jim,
I would say "holy crap this thing is awesome!"
Seriously though, the power that we have with these machines today is incredible. Having 4 cores is definitely better than 2 in that everything runs so quickly. And being able to add a ton of plug-ins to a project while barely denting the CPU load is very nice. I haven't done any real testing yet though... as in trying to add so many effects or synths that it would bring the box to a crawl. I'll definitely be trying that just to see how far I can go. Although, Sweetwater did a bunch of tests like that and they have some whitepapers up on their site.
There are some things about the machine that I will probably change though. First is that it only includes 2 drives. Now with all the power, I don't see this being a major problem for most people. But for those like myself that want to scrap every last drop of performance... I'd like to have a separate drive for streaming samples. So eventually, I'll add another drive. Also, I'm thinking I might turn this into a dedicated 64-bit machine. I got Vista 32 with this one (although Sweetwater does ship it with the 64-bit OS if you ask for it). But I've already got plenty of 32-bit power in my older Creation Station so I might take the plunge with the new machine. I'm still thinking about it, but I'd really like to be able to utilize the entire 6GB of RAM that comes with it.
Scott
Hi Scott,
I'm a newbie on this forum.
I have the Sonar 8 Producer 32 bit version and have been trying to run it on a P4 at 3.06 Ghz ( I have the Presonus Firestudio 26/26 ADAT interface)Sonar 8 & the old computer are NOT working all that well and I'm only trying one-track-at-a-time stuff for now. (Win 98 and Cakewalk pro 9 worked better !!)
SOOO.. I am looking at getting the Core i7 920 and other parts (copying the creation station list of goodies). (good price when putting it together myself)
However, my questions are..:
1) "Will my 32 bit version of Sonar 8 realize a significant gain on Vista 32 bit and the Core i7 CPU & 64 bit machine Vs my old P4 at 3/06 Ghz???"
2) "Should I stay with the Vista 32 bit OS for now (6 Gb ram)or make the leap to Vista 64 bit?"
3) "Will Cakewalk give me any price consideration for the Sonar 8 - 64 bit program after having spent a wad on the Soanr 8 - 32 bit program?"
Hope I didn't ask too many questions.
Look forward to your reply or post regarding these issue.
By the way I really enjoy the banter and topics on your site. Keep up the excelent work. (& yes I have Sonar 8 Power book)
Sincerely,
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Jim Sturm
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Posted - 08/11/2009 : 08:15:05 AM
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Originally posted by garrigus
Hey Jim... so are you going to move up the schedule now for building your new PC?
Scott
I'm going through that temptation phase where I have to keep telling myself 'You just WANT it, you don't really NEED it..'
-Jim
Ya know, truth be known, the real deciding factor for me will be the point where I feel that 64 bit support is adequate. It's coming along, but I'm surprised at how slow the progress has been.
I guess I'm throttling back the urge because I have this lurking fear that I'm going to buy beta. Sure, its a better format, but no real support - hence everything remains priced out of reach. I'm sure (logically) that's not going to happen, but since I have an adequate stable system, I think I can afford to wait.
The day is probably coming soon. 64 bit drivers for everything, a simple, clean 64 bit OS (yeah, right...) and 16 gig of RAM. Hmmm...
...on second thought, maybe I better build a system now - so I'll be ready...
-Jim
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garrigus
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Posted - 08/11/2009 : 11:18:33 AM
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Originally posted by GitPick
1) "Will my 32 bit version of Sonar 8 realize a significant gain on Vista 32 bit and the Core i7 CPU & 64 bit machine Vs my old P4 at 3/06 Ghz???"
2) "Should I stay with the Vista 32 bit OS for now (6 Gb ram)or make the leap to Vista 64 bit?"
3) "Will Cakewalk give me any price consideration for the Sonar 8 - 64 bit program after having spent a wad on the Soanr 8 - 32 bit program?"
Hi Sandy,
Welcome to the forum!
1. Yes, there will definitely be a significant performance increase because when you move to a dual-core or quad-core machine your available processing power increases tremendously and SONAR is designed to take advantage of multiple processors.
2. There are still some things that don't work under 64-bit, but a lot of people have switched to that platform. And you can still run 32-bit software under a 64-bit OS. Also, under 32-bit you can only use 4GB of RAM. You need 64-bit to use more. Take a look at this section of the Cakewalk web site for some additional info: http://www.cakewalk.com/PCResource/SONARx64.asp
3. You don't need to purchase a another copy of SONAR because Cakewalk graciously includes both 32-bit and 64-bit versions of SONAR in the same package. So you already have it. The installation DVD automatically recognizes the OS you're using.
Best,
Scott
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* Author of the Cakewalk Sonar and Sony Sound Forge Power book series: http://garrigus.com/?PowerBooks
* Author of the Cakewalk Sonar ProAudioTutor video tutorial series: http://garrigus.com/?ProAudioTutor
* Publisher of the DigiFreq free music technology newsletter: http://digifreq.com/?DigiFreq
* Publisher of the NewTechReview free consumer technology newsletter: http://newtechreview.com/?NewTechReview |
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